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  London Protest 2018

  by josephus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

  we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

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  Bungi Bill

  It took me seven years to extract my MS/Reg Pio mind from the indoctrination but it started with a tiny seed.

  We shouldn't dismiss out of hand the consequences that can result from introducing even just one element of doubt into somebody's mind.

  Receive enough of these for long enough and who knows what might happen. It certainly worked for me! My waking up to the TTAT came from the accumulation of a long series of doubts, rather than one spectacular "Road to Damascus" type of experience. ( And by the sound of things, Farmer Jim 1 experienced something similar).

  A certain old expression "The Ordinary rather than The Spectacular" comes very much to mind here!

  
  
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  London Protest 2018

  by josephus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

  we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

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  Bungi Bill

  Just because you weren't cut out for it doesn't mean that others weren't or aren't.

  Very good point. When it comes to this sort of thing, one size definitely doesn't fit all!
  
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  Why go back to the Old Testament?

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?

  such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.

  surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.

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  Bungi Bill

  FTS,

  
  

  Once again, very interesting.
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  Bad teachings for kids

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during my time in the cult i sometimes sat during a talk thinking why on earth are they talking about topics like this with kids in the audience.

  talking about sex and masturbation was probably the worst one i heard and my daughter was only 5 at the time.. what inappropriate talks or comments have you heard over the years that children should not be exposed to really?.

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  Bungi Bill

  I give my late father full marks here.

  His newly-converted JW mother managed to lure him along to a few public talks (mainly at Circuit Assemblies) and other JW meetings. However, he was quick to note that much of the content was not suitable for the many children in the audience. Consequently, he resisted the pressure from his JW mother to have us kids reared as Witnesses.

  For that I cannot thank him enough!
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  Why go back to the Old Testament?

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?

  such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.

  surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.

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  Bungi Bill

  Once more, where is David_Jay when you need him!

  Those versed in the history of the Jewish people would be quick to tell you that the Jewish writers of the Old Testament never intended it to be taken literally. Rather, it was written purely as a collection of folklore, with a view towards helping preserve the unique identity of the people after they were exiled to Babylon.

  You can only marvel at the craziness of those who allow themselves to get bent all out of shape over the things said in a collection of Middle East fairy tales!
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  The great 1914 turn around

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i must say there is no other religion in modern times that has lied more to their cult followers than the watchtower company and no more brain dead, gullible cult members than the jdubs.. just three examples.

  when russel was in charge 1914 was prophesied to be the end of the system of things with armageddon and the earthly paradise.

  that didn't happen and poof now 1914 was not the end, oh no, it was the beginning of the end.. the second example, the generation that saw 1914 would not pass away before the end came, which meant in all jdubs minds that paradise had to be here in the late 1990's.

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  Bungi Bill

  It would seem that even in the time of Judge Joseph Boozerford, Crazy Fred was the closest thing they ever had to a theologian.
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  Silent lambs: Child sexual abuse and the Jehovah’s Witness [New Zealand Investigation]

  by The Poetry Of Reality in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://thespinoff.co.nz/the-best-of/23-07-2018/silent-lambs-child-sexual-abuse-and-the-jehovahs-witness/.

  i just would like to thank amy for all the work she's put into this over the last year - as well as all the people that participated in this.

  as a member of the new zealand community, i'm very thankful and appreciative.. #astormiscoming.

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  Bungi Bill

  Thanks for posting.

  Sorry to have to report that I knew personally several of the perpetrators. Thankful, though, that neither got his filthy fingers on my daughters!
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  JWs and Guns.

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was told shooting guns and collecting them was not something a jw should do.

  when i lived way up north us it was more of a deer hunting group and so some guns were ok, when i moved to florida it was different.

  most people in the hall were not hunters.

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  Bungi Bill

  I grew up in an environment in which almost every guy owned .22, a shotgun and a .303.There were very practical reasons for this. Pest control was (and still is) a real issue. Also deer skins (and later venison) commanded high prices. Hunting was a practical way to supplement ones income.Upon becoming a JW, this didn’t change too much. The only flak I copped was not over owning a firearm, but over going out hunting on weekends, when I should have been engaged in the “Field Circus” business instead!
  
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  Without god what is the basis of morality?

  by OneEyedJoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm sure most here who've questioned or left behind their belief in god have encountered this question - without god, what basis can there be for morality?

  my exwife, when i admitted that i was an atheist, once asked me "if you don't believe in god, what's to stop you from going out and raping and murdering?

  " previously, whenever i got this objection, i would tend to turn it around on the other person with a response along the lines of "if fear of god is the only thing that stops you from murdering, that makes me rather nervous to be around you.

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  Bungi Bill

  Stephen Covey, in his Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, summed it up well. To determine whether or not a principle is correct, just visualise what the world would be like if everybody didn't practice it.

  Having a religious leader lay down the law about what is right and what is wrong only works to the extent that religious people apply those principles. And there's the rub! All too many religious people (with Christians noteworthy among them) fail to practice what they preach.

  This did not go unnoticed amongst the "heathen" peoples of Africa, Asia and elsewhere. For example, in 19th Century New Zealand, the newly-converted Maori people were quick to observe how the Ten Commandments were relegated to second place from Monday morning until midnight Saturday - then sent on an indefinite Leave of Absence whenever there was a war on!
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  Do You Typically Accept The Press As Being Unbiased And Honest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is more “ yellow journalism “ than ever before!

  newscasters and writers that you thought were trustworthy often miss the mark.. do you generally accept the “news” as being honest?.

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  Bungi Bill

  "Unreliable" is how I would describe our mainstream media.